How to get 100 points in Amatz with Heroes? - Guild Wars Forums

Pugs Not Drugs · Apr 07, 2011, 03:20 PM // 15:20

I have been trying for two hours, but simply cannot do it. I am using myself as a WE axe warrior, 2 Searing Flames/Resto eles, 1 Searing Flames/Fall Back Ele, 2 Spirit Spams (communing/Channeling), and AOTL MM, and a N/Rt healer. My highest score has been 85.

What I do is start off on one side with my eles, and flag my last four on the other side. I hold these positions for about 4 minutes, once i get around 40 points, and then start moving as a mob, because the heroes cant hold themselves past this point. One thing I noticed is the SF eles are constantly low on energy, because there generally is no time for them to stop and regen, so I think they should be replaced.

Anybody have tips? I really do not want to resort to using a perma, but I guess I will have to...

ErrantVenture · Apr 07, 2011, 03:42 PM // 15:42

SF eles suck. Use more mesmers and necros.

pvp joda · Apr 07, 2011, 03:51 PM // 15:51

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...tml?t=10429205

??iljo · Apr 07, 2011, 04:06 PM // 16:06

So u linked to a 1y old thread with 2 posts?

Also interested in a 7h build to do this.

Pugs Not Drugs · Apr 07, 2011, 04:53 PM // 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErrantVenture

SF eles suck. Use more mesmers and necros.

I really didnt see the point in a curses necro or mesmers because the problem isnt that i am taking to much damage, its that i simply cant kill the huge amount of spawns fast enough to protect the level ten refugees. i see curses necros and mesmers as defense oriented characters that have a few offensive capabilites and are more suited for hm imo.

but i agree the sf eles need replacing. i just cant figure out with what.

alberte06 · Apr 07, 2011, 05:08 PM // 17:08

Mo/any RoJ Smitin Hybridn heroes or something? Its difficult because in reality a 5/3 or 4/4 split with a spirit spammer, Nec hybrid, SS and MM - all with protective/healing/utility skills, should be able to sort this out for you. As you said at a certain point you have to start running as a mob, but if the heroes have enough utility then they should be able to look after themselves, and thereby make your life easier

I dunno just something to think about

edit: Dont think I made myself clear, and SS, MM, Nec/RT healer and a Spirit Spammer on one side, with a Spirit Spammer and whatever else on the otherside

Pugs Not Drugs · Apr 07, 2011, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by alberte06

Mo/any RoJ Smitin Hybridn heroes or something? Its difficult because in reality a 5/3 or 4/4 split with a spirit spammer, Nec hybrid, SS and MM - all with protective/healing/utility skills, should be able to sort this out for you. As you said at a certain point you have to start running as a mob, but if the heroes have enough utility then they should be able to look after themselves, and thereby make your life easier

I dunno just something to think about

edit: Dont think I made myself clear, and SS, MM, Nec/RT healer and a Spirit Spammer on one side, with a Spirit Spammer and whatever else on the otherside

I tried doing that originally, but the rangers/warriors knockdowns combined with splinter weapon just demolished my heroes. Ill try changing the builds like you said.

Kula · Apr 07, 2011, 08:04 PM // 20:04

I forgot when exactly the permasin got nerfed, but here are a couple threads from last year, and the year before:

Amatz Basin Challenge

Amatz Basin

Amatz Basin H/H

They don't exactly answer your question, but maybe they can help spark some ideas. It appears some form of perma tank is needed to make it easier. I also need to complete this to raise the Kurz cap; I just never got around to it.

Hugh Manatee · Apr 07, 2011, 08:07 PM // 20:07

The only way I was ever able to do it was to go in with other players, where one guy just tanked the middle and let the kurzik guys just run past. I was on the left with my paragon and a couple heroes and the other guys was on the right. You need the dudes from all 3 portals to be getting to the goal to get a decent score, having a guys tank damage on one or more sides so 100% of them get though just helps the other sides way to much.

Pugs Not Drugs · Apr 07, 2011, 09:23 PM // 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kula

I forgot when exactly the permasin got nerfed, but here are a couple threads from last year, and the year before:
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Oh so the perma sins dont work anymore??

dang it, i was going to use them as a failsafe

Apr 07, 2011, 03:20 PM // 15:20	#1
Pugs Not Drugs Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2009	How to get 100 points in Amatz with Heroes? I have been trying for two hours, but simply cannot do it. I am using myself as a WE axe warrior, 2 Searing Flames/Resto eles, 1 Searing Flames/Fall Back Ele, 2 Spirit Spams (communing/Channeling), and AOTL MM, and a N/Rt healer. My highest score has been 85. What I do is start off on one side with my eles, and flag my last four on the other side. I hold these positions for about 4 minutes, once i get around 40 points, and then start moving as a mob, because the heroes cant hold themselves past this point. One thing I noticed is the SF eles are constantly low on energy, because there generally is no time for them to stop and regen, so I think they should be replaced. Anybody have tips? I really do not want to resort to using a perma, but I guess I will have to...

Apr 07, 2011, 05:08 PM // 17:08	#6
alberte06 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: London, England Guild: The Stigs Profession: P/W	Mo/any RoJ Smitin Hybridn heroes or something? Its difficult because in reality a 5/3 or 4/4 split with a spirit spammer, Nec hybrid, SS and MM - all with protective/healing/utility skills, should be able to sort this out for you. As you said at a certain point you have to start running as a mob, but if the heroes have enough utility then they should be able to look after themselves, and thereby make your life easier I dunno just something to think about edit: Dont think I made myself clear, and SS, MM, Nec/RT healer and a Spirit Spammer on one side, with a Spirit Spammer and whatever else on the otherside Last edited by alberte06; Apr 07, 2011 at 05:10 PM // 17:10..

Apr 07, 2011, 03:42 PM // 15:42	#2
ErrantVenture Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2010 Guild: Social Darwinism [SaD] Profession: A/W	SF eles suck. Use more mesmers and necros.

Apr 07, 2011, 03:51 PM // 15:51	#3
pvp joda Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2006	http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...tml?t=10429205

Apr 07, 2011, 04:06 PM // 16:06	#4
??iljo Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: N/	So u linked to a 1y old thread with 2 posts? Also interested in a 7h build to do this.

Apr 07, 2011, 08:04 PM // 20:04	#8
Kula Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Coast, USA Profession: Mo/E	I forgot when exactly the permasin got nerfed, but here are a couple threads from last year, and the year before: Amatz Basin Challenge Amatz Basin Amatz Basin H/H They don't exactly answer your question, but maybe they can help spark some ideas. It appears some form of perma tank is needed to make it easier. I also need to complete this to raise the Kurz cap; I just never got around to it.

Apr 07, 2011, 08:07 PM // 20:07	#9
Hugh Manatee Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2007 Guild: Nice But Deadly[nice] Profession: N/	The only way I was ever able to do it was to go in with other players, where one guy just tanked the middle and let the kurzik guys just run past. I was on the left with my paragon and a couple heroes and the other guys was on the right. You need the dudes from all 3 portals to be getting to the goal to get a decent score, having a guys tank damage on one or more sides so 100% of them get though just helps the other sides way to much.